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cityship ([personal profile] cityship) wrote in [community profile] trans_92010-01-05 01:27 am

Meet and Greet Part Deux: The Socialing

The new people will find themselves ushered out of Obs Deck, so it can be shot down to the planet again, to pick the crew up. Eventually, the crew members on the mission are brought back up, and the doors open to let the two groups meet.

The newbies are likely not expecting their new crew-mates to come back bearing presents--which some of them are.

[ooc: This time anyone can post in. REMEMBER TO TAG OTHER PEOPLE, THO. This is set after the mission so mission peoples can meet the newbies. Latecomer newbies, if you want, you can just tag your guys into this one to make things easier.]
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-15 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
"Well...why don't you? Help people on the ship, that is." Jamie asks, as if the suggestion makes perfect sense to him. "Ye just said ye can heal with your waterbending, so ye could do that, right?"

Sure, it may not be needed all the time but she already said she worked in the Medbay before, so why wouldn't they want extra help?

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-15 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
"I have," Katara said, "But I know I'm not going to be able to do that as much now. I have a lot of training I'm doing, and a completely new craft I'm learning that requires more concentration that I've ever given anything. I can help the ship when I heal, and I will at a moments notice, but I can also help the ship by getting stronger and moving faster too. We have plenty of doctors on this ship, but not that many waterbenders/Bene Gesserits."

And it was a lot of work, just to make sure she could do Prana-bindu.
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-15 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's a new one for Jamie. He blinks rather rapidly. "Bene Gesserit?" Don't get him wrong, he knows the term - he's talked to a couple of them, after all. But...

"I didna realize ye could study to become one if ye weren't from their world. Don't ye have to take their spice drug or something?" He's a little fuzzy on the details, and looks at Katara with a rather puzzled expression.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-15 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Order I'm training in," Katara said. "I thought I'd told you about them already, but I guess not. I've watched Sheeana. read up on the order. and I decided I wanted to train to be part of that sisterhood. I've always wanted to expand my knowledge in the body arts as well as waterbending, and now I have that chance."

Katara shook her head. "A girl isn't just born to be one. It's a inner strength and dedication you have to have on your own if you're going to get anywhere. Spice isn't required to take it, but the hours to learn are long, and homework is something you take up yourself. But a teacher is a teacher, and so is the effort you put behind what you do."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-16 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
"No, I know the name - I just didna know ye had joined." He's frowning slightly, trying to think if Katara had said something and he just forgot about it. "Did ye maybe say something to people on the Omnicoms? I don't always read those."

He gives her an apologetic look. "If ye did tell me and I forgot, though, I'm sorry."

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"I did, but I also thought that I told you already. My fault: I talk to you so much and you've gotten close enough, I automatically thought I told you! I apologize though, for not telling you before. I should have too -when I put it on the Omnicom, me and my brother wound up arguing about it. He thought I was jumping in too quickly and was bothered about Spice."

Katara shrugged. "Sometimes things you want to do isn't going to happen with all the support you'd like."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-17 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
"Och, it's no problem, Katara." Jamie looks at her thoughtfully for a moment. "I don't think it's that your brother doesn't want to support you, though. I think it's more that he loves ye, and worries about ye." And if Katara doesn't have to take the Spice, well, then, what's to worry about?

"Did ye tell him ye didna have to take the Spice-Drug?"

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Katara rolled her eyes. "Believe me Jamie, I get that. I'm one of the most fretting girls on the ship, and he's my brother. I know that I shouldn't take it too seriously if I can, that he's just trying to show concern. What I'm angry about is time after time, he tends to think I make impulsive decisions all the time. Yes, I know my track record isn't the best, what with the Yeerk, and me being the few to not hate Lex Luthor when I first met him. But for something like this, I was always going to be asking questions and I was going to do certain things my way."

She sighed. "Yeah, I must have told him that three times, but he still didn't want to support me. Times like these I'm usually angry with him, but its a little difficult when you remember he's the only brother you have and you need him still, even if you have all the confidence and bravado in the world."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-18 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
"Aye," Jamie says, not without sympathy. "I'm always being yelled at for being rash, so I know what ye mean." Granted, it's not without reason, but there's been times where he hasn't done anything he thought was impulsive and still gotten taken to task for it. He does understand.

"I don't understand why everyone seems to to hate him," he remarks in regards to Lex. "I can see why ye would want to be careful around him, but hate?" Jamie shrugs. He doesn't think he should trust Luthor, not one bit. But hate? No.

"Is your brother older or younger than ye?" he asks, then. If he's older, that would explain rather a lot of the attitude.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-18 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
"I mean, it isn't fair! I join the Outsiders, and he's there, so do I get scolded about that? No, because he's there too! But the moment I get near something that's just mine and happen to have a teacher that's a strong woman, he's concerned! If he wants to actually know what I'm doing, he can just come and ask my teacher himself, don't you think?"

She knew, of course, that Sokka wasn't being sexist, just annoyingly protective.

"I'm pretty sure Luthor in their time was a bad man, at least as bad a man as the Fire lord in my world: ruthless, manipulative, evil. But this Luthor was judged before we even got to really know him other than the bridge incident. I wouldn't say I completely trust him, I'd be an idiot. But I'm not going to actually keep away unless he actually tries to hurt someone."

Katara sighs. "Older. Definitely trying to live up to his end as older brother too, just like I try to play mom with him too."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-18 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Jamie says noncommittally, "Aye, he could have." He thinks it's maybe best to not get into the whole men being better than women argument with Katara. It's possible that Katara's brother might just be being protective - he's never met the man, so he couldn't say. Besides, it saves the inevitable argument that would wind up happening when Jamie says something that is sexist.

He nods in agreement to her statement about Luthor, but doesn't say anything else on the subject, having seen him around the room. He'll make his own observations before he draws any further conclusions about the man.

He smiles a little at the sigh. "I thought he might have been, from what ye are saying." If he had a little sister, he might have felt the same way. "In that case, it explains a lot." He hesitates for a moment, about to ask about her playing mom, but settles back and simply lets the statement end there. Hopefully Katara won't pick up on the hesitation.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-18 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, he could," Katara said, casting a stern eye to what Jamie isn't saying. He seem,s a little quite about that, and she wondered if that might be because Jamie might agree with Sokka. But she hoped that wasn't the case: Jamie seemed like such a sweet boy, she couldn't believe he would believe in dumb comparisons like that.

He also seemed a bit quiet about Luthor, and Katara wondered if that might not be a difference between the two of them: Katara was not one to keep her mouth shut, and Jamie tried not to raise a fuss. That might make Jamie better liked, and maybe Katara couldn't blame him. After all, HE had never had to get locked up by security, or be scolded by Leon or be told off by Paco.

But at this point, Katara is DEFINITELY noticing that Jamie is saying very little, and now she wasn't going to let that slide. "What is it taht you;re not saying, Jamie? You seem awfully quiet."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-18 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Jamie tries to keep quiet - it doesn't necessarily mean that he's always successful. Especially if he gives into to his impulses. He did threaten to punch Luis in the face, after all.

And it doesn't help when the other person is good at picking up what he's not saying. He grimaces a little as he realizes Katara's gotten at least an inkling that he's trying to keep from saying something stupid.

"Och, it's just..." Well, maybe if he chooses one of the things to talk about, he can let the others slide. And Luthor, all things considered, may actually be the safest of the topics. It's certainly the least personal.

"There's something about Lex Luthor that bothers me," he admits. "I'm just not sure what it is."

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-18 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
No good Jamie: you're painfully obvious. Even if Katara hadn't had Bene Gesserit training to learn when people are hiding things, she's still very observant, and knew that she was going to corner Jamie a moment and ask him why he was avoiding the issue. For now though, she was at least going to answer one of Jamie's queries.

"Lex Luthor's a shrewd man," Katara said. "He has secrets and he's very sure of himself. He has a plan for things if they go wrong, so that it goes in his favor. In other words, Luthor has got a plan B and even a plan C if he needs one. I never forgot what happened at the Bridge. That's just a part of who he is."

And that said, she turned her stern eyes to him. "And why are you avoiding what I'm asking you?"
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-18 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
He's not going to be able to get out of this, is he? Jamie sighs, then takes a deep breath and turns to face Katara. "Because I didna particularly want to upset ye, that's why." Or get into a fight with her, depending on which way the conversation went.

He looks out at the room, and gestures. "Look, people are having a good time. We should be enjoying ourselves, and proud of what we did. Do ye really want me to go into something that'll ruin that?"

Well, more than the talk of the Nightmare King did, but that's a little different.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-18 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Katara crossed her arms. "And what exactly do you think you have to tell me that is going to get me upset? Do you think I shouldn't go to Sheeana to train because she's a girl? Do you have a problem with strong women? If you don't tell me what you have a problem with, I'm going to keep guessing,a nd the more I get the more annoyed I'm going to get."

Katara put her hands on her hips. "If you don't tell me, I'm just going to wonder what it is hide from me."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-19 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
"Aye, well, what I was going to say was in regards to what ye said about being a mother to your brother. I was thinking that maybe it might not be the best subject to bring up." Because, sometimes, when someone is trying to mother someone else that actually isn't their child, it's because the actual mother isn't there.

Jamie folds his arms against his chest as well. "And since ye aren't going to let this rest, I might as well tell ye I do think there are some things men are better at than women."

He lets that sink in, then says, "But before ye bite my head off over it, ye should also know that I've been already been told I come from a verra backwards time and that I should know better."

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-19 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Katara had no idea what Jamie was talking about there. "What are you talking about? I know that I'm a mother to him, I had to be. Mom was gone, so, it really wasn't an is..."

But she dies stop short when she hears that, and the glare coming from Katara was enough to quail even Combustion man. "Oh really? Well, since your5 world is so very backwards, why don't you enlighten me? I'd really like to know all the things a man can do better than a woman. Please go on."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-19 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
This is exactly why he didn't want to say anything. But no, Katara had to push. And Jamie is not quailed easily. "For one thing, we don't press the issue when someone is making it clear that they don't wish to talk about something."

He glares right back. "I was raised completely differently than ye were. I come from a place where men went out to fight, and women stayed home to raise the bairns - and there's no such thing as superpowers or bending or any of that. I'm not saying that's the only way. I've seen that now. I've met plenty of strong women in my day." And there's been plenty of times when he's needed their help, but that's very hard for him to admit.

"It's not easy to change overnight, Katara. I'm trying, whether or not ye believe me."

Jamie shakes his head, expression more than a little frustrated. "Ye know what? I'm not going try and justify myself to ye. Ye can deal with what I am or ye cannot. If ye can't, I'm sorry."
Edited 2010-01-19 02:36 (UTC)

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-19 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Katara was surprised, and her anger started to lose some of its momentum. "Sometimes things do need to be mentioned. If my friend has a certain point of view, I'd still like to know why. You'll have to forgive me if its pushy, but I prefer the truth to beating around the bush."

Here though, she met Jamie's gaze. "Just because there is bending in my world doesn't mean its any more open about letting men and women mixing. My tribe was only a little less sexist, I mentioned that with Sokka. To get where I am now, I had to fight for it, challenge the person that would be my teacher. If I didn't, the only skill I'd have now would be healing. I wanted to fight, pure and simple, because that is what my people raised us to be, all of us."

She sighed. "But I also know when to back off too. You're my friend, and you've never treated me with disrespect, so I shouldn't react as hostile now. I did ask. For that, I'm sorry. It's just a sensitive subject for me. If people want to fight for this they care about, I think they should, male or female."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-19 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
Jamie hadn't realized Katara had come from a similar society - at least, in terms of how women are treated - and he is also surprised. "Sokka?" he interjects. The name isn't familiar at first, then he figures it out. "Och, he'd be your brother." He shuts up after that and listens to the rest of the explanation.

Afterwards, he says quietly, "Ye don't have to apologize. I didna realize that your tribe was like that. If ye had to fight to get where ye were, I do see why someone like me would cause a strong reaction."

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-19 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Katara offers an embarrassed smile. "Yeah, I guess I never mentioned his name before. He's not that hard to spot actually: he has a bit of a wolf tail haircut, and is wearing blue like me. He has the same skin tone too."

Katara shook her head. "But you aren't 'someone' like you, you're Jamie, and you are right: if you're trying to overcome that, It won't help to have me yelling at you for it. I guess I'm still learning to get over some of the things that happening other people's worlds. It's a lot to get used to."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-20 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
"That's not completely true." Jamie states, frankly. "It does help, if I did say something that was offensive to ye. Like ye said, sometimes things do need to be mentioned."

He gives her a smile back and adds. "There's a lot of things to learn about people on here. Everyone has different..." he tries to think of a word that would work, then gives up. "Everything, aye? It's enough to make your head swim."

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"I usually like to know just what my good friends think about me," Katara said, "but I can see that there are certain things that are better left unsaid. But if its anything that you think is important, please tell me, okay Jamie?"

Katara laughed. "You don't have to tell me that! I'm the kind of person who likes to talk to everyone, and sometimes that means that I learn about things that I'd never even experienced in my world before. Its not really a bad thing though, just something to get used to. Magic, technology, different species of people. That's a lot to be asked for any of us."
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[personal profile] bonnypiperlad 2010-01-21 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
He nods. "Aye, Katara. If it's important, I will definitely tell ye. And I hope ye will do that same." There's a small grin that appears then. "Not that I don't think ye wouldn't. Ye aren't afraid to speak your mind at all."

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