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cityship ([personal profile] cityship) wrote in [community profile] trans_92011-04-27 08:17 am

Melting Clock: Quarantine

After Sam Henderson's announcement, the Contagion Containment and Treatment lab was going to get busy. Anyone suspected of being affected by the mysterious affliction would be brought here, and put into one of the large bubbles that would keep any potential contagious diseases in - and the patients themselves. Once in inside, they wouldn't be able to get out again until the Medical staff had cleared them.

And before they could do that, they needed to find out what was causing this - and why.

They had a lot of hard work ahead of them.

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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-03 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Sakura had been right, to an extent - when he was talking about XaXing and trying to get Sakura to go out with him, it was easier to pretend that his wasn't out there. Easier to not keep mulling over that constant anxiety over the fact that Marco just couldn't believe that she wasn't still infested by Visser One. Didn't mean that he wasn't serious about asking her out, but it had definitely helped to act as a distraction.

"Is Rachel still having a serious case of split personality?" He asked - they'd put him and Nice Rachel far apart from each other, so he couldn't see her. He'd known that Mean Rachel had brought in though - he hadn't seen her, but he'd sure as hell heard her.

He didn't ask about his mother.
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-03 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
"For the moment, she does." Which brought her back around to a question she'd asked before, and hadn't had the chance to find an answer. Sea stars weren't part of her area of knowledge. "The split has to do with a starfish morph?"

How had it been so capable of splitting personality as well?
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-03 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Yeah. Like, when a starfish gets cut in half, it regenerates into two different starfish, right? So when Rachel morphed it and got cut in half, instead of just one half demorphing, they both did."

Just another example of the fact that Marco's life was completely insane.
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-03 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
Like Zetsu, if not... exactly like Zetsu. "You don't happen to still remember how the two Rachel's rejoined, do you?" If it'd be a problem at all. Considering that this aging backward was such a literal time-loss that it was sending people back not to just moments in their past, but specific instances of their past selves, there would be a point soon where it wouldn't matter.

With the time reversal continuing, Rachel would hit the point where she'd never been split.

Taken back long enough... It won't get that far.
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-03 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
"Some weird thing were they acquired and morphed each other," Marco said, shrugging. "Good luck convincing them to go along with that though. We had a hell of time convincing them back home."

He didn't say it, but the unspoken thought was that waiting until they deaged back far enough would be easier.
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-03 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
"We'll see. I don't think half of Rachel wants anything more to do with me than she already has." Waiting was the easiest course, if the most disturbing.
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-03 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh man. You ran into Mean Rachel?" Marco said, wincing.
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-03 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"You could say that," she said, shrugging. All in all, first literally running into her and going through a bear fight, then coming back across her with the group that had helped bring her in? "The bear morph's one of her usuals for direct confrontation?"
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
"Are you kidding? She loves her grizzly morph," Marco snorted. He leaned forward conspiratorially. "Hey, since you're still walking around apparently unmaimed, does that meant that you kicked her ass? Please tell me you kicked her ass. That would give me so much ammo if you had."
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Sakura crossed her arms, lifting an eyebrow. "I really don't see how that has any bearing on what we've been discussing."

Ha. Bearing. "Though as a matter of public record, I only did what was necessary to try and get her to calm down." Clearly it hadn't worked, but they'd parted ways before Sakura had caught back up when Rachel had been fighting the rest of the crew who had finally brought her in. "Considering I ran into her twice, and only the second time did anyone succeed in bringing her in, make of it what you will."

Skimping on the details? Never.
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh, it definitely 'bears' on this discussion," Marco grinned, unable to resist the pun. "Especially since this discussion is now about you telling me exactly what went down. Spill, Barbie. I know Mean Rachel, and there's no way you'd ever get her to calm down. Did you get in a good hit?"
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh, it is, is it?" She rested her free hand on her hip. As a general rule, the only people interested in Sakura's exploits were the people she reported to. Genin and Academy students were more likely to play that game, asking for details like the gossips people tried to pretend they weren't a few years later.

"I'd barely call it that," she said neutrally, if her lips twitched up at the corners. No smiling. That would be decidedly unprofessional, and she was supposed to still be conducting interviews here. Though she could pass this off as maintaining patient mood... sort of. "It wasn't that exciting. I body checked her when she was morphing to throw her off balance. She swung at me, I dodged, and at some point I ended up tossing her against a wall." At least early on.
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, the opportunity to hear about Rachel getting her butt kicked (and not in the scary, Controllers-nearly-killer-her kind of way) was just too good to pass up.

"Tossing her against a way sounds pretty impressive. That grizzly's not light," Marco noted. Then he smirked. She was making jokes! See, he knew she had a sense of humour. She just pretend that she didn't. "Come on, what next? You can't just give me the 'bare' details."
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't have to give you any of the details," she pointed out, quirking up an eyebrow yet again. She flashed him a smile, amused. "Dressed up or otherwise. You'll just have to bear up under the disappointment. Besides," Sakura said, "Compared to the ones from the Forest of Death, the grizzly's weight wasn't that difficult to manage."
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
"But Barbie, not knowing is unbearable," Marco said, grinning. "And this Forest of Death sounds like a fun place."
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
"I wouldn't want to strip you of a chance at knowledge ..." Still, she wasn't giving him anything more at the moment. It felt rude, considering Rachel was in the same area. Not that she was close enough to hear, but before Rachel was back to being one self...

Sakura brought her hand up to her mouth, tapping her index finger on her lips. "Sure, it's a walk in the park. Between the giant bears, humongous millipedes, and gigantic snakes, it's not like people go missing every exam year."
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Marco eyed Sakura sidelong, distracted from trying to see how long he could keep Sakura making puns. "People go missing during your exams?"
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
"The chuunin exams." She felt herself straighten, trying to gauge his reaction. It was such a cut and dry, known fact to her, she wasn't sure what kind of importance or impact it would have on anyone else.

Did it sound too extreme? Was that left out of these other media adaptations of shinobi, on these other worlds? Being a ninja was dangerous. Rising through the ranks wasn't for everyone, and without a certain skill-set and ability to survive and work with a team, you never did. Trying to do what you couldn't handle got you killed.

Wasn't that much obvious?

"Some small number of the genin entered die each year it's held." She didn't notice moving her arm, wrapping around her chest and holding on to her other arm. Protective. "The death rate's down from what it used to be in past generations, if that's probably in part due to the age difference. Hosting it in Konoha helps too. The Forest of Death is more forgiving than some other testing grounds."

All factual. Sakura knew all of this, had read documents with statistics on them. She'd read the unofficial law passed raising graduation age to a standardized eleven in Konoha proper.
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
"So let me get this straight - the test to become a chuunin or whatever that hell that is kills people. Every year. And used to kill more because people were too young?" Marco said, one eyebrow raised. "Doesn't that strike you are, I don't know, insane?!"
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
"No," she said slowly, "Not really. People being put through the exam at five because they'd passed the Academy graduation exams strikes me as insane. That actually used to happen, with the prodigies. These days people aren't allowed to graduate from the Academy under the age of eleven no matter how talented they are. You can't even qualify for the chuunin exam in Konoha until twelve."

More than old enough for these things. By twelve, you were young enough to still be important for protecting, but old enough (and skilled enough) to help defend and protect the things you believed in as well.

"And even then, your whole team has to be rated as ready by your team leader and instructor. If they don't think you're ready, you don't get to go."
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Five? Five?!" Marco stared. "And you think twelve is better? Your instructors sure as hell aren't rating accurately enough, because if they knew their shit then kids wouldn't be dying. And this isn't even them dying because you guys were under attack and there was no alternative. They're dying for a freaking exam, when the smart thing to would be to train them for a few more years. Or - here's the thing - maybe put in a few more fail-safes so you can avoid having a bunch of dead kids at the end."
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
"Considering we start training at six, yes, I do think twelve is better!" She felt defensive, not able to articulate quite yet how it wasn't just an exam, how this was qualifying and testing people to make sure they weren't sent out on missions that got them killed in ways that could be that much more horrifying, ways that could get their entire teams killed because they balked at the last moment.

"Your team is your fail safe. Your training. Believe me, I went through that exam twice. You have to be pretty damn stupid to get yourself killed out there," pending s-class criminals weren't stalking you down in the forest, "And it's always a choice. Nothing and no one makes you take that test." Ignoring the social pressure and the peer pressure combined.

His statement that it would be acceptable had they been under attack, without an alternative, struck her as absurd. "But it's fine if we had no choice? We can die without the right training when there's no alternative." Ignoring that he had no context for her world outside what she'd told him, and that she'd told him very little in the grand scheme of things, she couldn't believe what she was hearing. "When we're under attack in a way you recognize, then at least we can justify why people die defending the things they believe in?"
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-04 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
"How can you justify people dying for no reason?" Marco countered. "People die in war all the time. That's unavoidable. But an exam's not a battlefield. There's no tactical gain to be had, and if people are dying then you're already getting a tactical loss because you've now got fewer people who could have been useful later. They're certainly not going to be any use at all if they're dead."

Out of the Animorphs, Marco had always been the one who was ruthless. The one who saw the way to end goal, what needed to be done, and did it, even if doing it wasn't the 'morally' right option. But he'd never approved of killing for the sake of killing. It was never about the end justifying the means - it was about weight up the cost of acting, and the cost of not acting, and deciding which one was worse. The lesser of two evils.

Letting twelve year olds not just die, but die for no point was just not going toright with Marco.

"And sorry, but your team and training being your fail safe is bullshit. Because if you've got someone dying every exam, then that's near certain odds that the fail safes don't work for at least one person. And how many people take this exam, anyway? I'd guess not many, since most people aren't insane enough to decide to take a deadly test. Which means the percentage of people dying probably isn't negligible, and your fail safes are failing too often."
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[personal profile] encourage 2011-05-04 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"Near one hundred fifty people to start out with. That's an average -- don't quote me on it." It changed yearly, and sometimes based on where the test was held. "Near half the teams are cut out by the written test alone. If one part of your team fails, your whole team fails. That's near half the participants before you hit the survival stage."

She let go of her death grip on her own arm, ticking off each section with a finger. "The second part takes place over five days. Everyone's your theoretical enemy, and even then, the likelihood of anyone coming after you with killing intent is low. Possible, and it's happened, but low."

Sakura forced herself to keep a level tone. She mostly succeeded, falling into a lecturing cadence familiar to her over the years. "Another half of the remaining teams don't finish that test, unable to complete mission objectives. Now you're generally down to twenty-some odd people at most, or nine if it's been a brutal year. They want nine or less for the final test-round no matter what, so if more people came through than can be showcased at the end, you end up fighting in preliminary rounds. Those are the one on one fights, randomly assigned. It's one of the few pieces of obvious technology you'll find back home, the machine that generates the fighting pairs."

She was explaining far more than she'd ever intended to, and in part as an effort not to end up shouting. You have no idea what you're talking about! Quarantine wasn't the place, and this wasn't the time. She didn't think there would ever be a time.

She continued on. "When you have your final nine, or eight, or whoever ends up qualifying, they have a month to train for the final tournament. Fights are randomized again, and in an ideal exam there's one final winner. Which doesn't matter. The third exam isn't about winning, it's about conduct. The Kage of any given village decides who qualifies as chuunin based on their performance in the final test, and a win or a loss isn't what makes that decision for you."

Looking squarely at Marco, she closed her hand into a fist. No more counting off. "You want to discuss tactical gain? Do you have any idea what the chuunin exam stands in for?" It was a rhetorical question. There was no way he could. "War. The five nations settled on the rotating exam in order to find a safer means of demonstrating to the world at large who's worthy of patronage. We're hired fighters, Marco. Mostly hired to fight against other shinobi, or to safeguard people or wares, but hired nonetheless. We're only as self sufficient as we are successful in drawing in customers."

All things which Sakura knew, but the disconnect between recognizing the absurdities and finding them abhorrent (the world she lived in was so much less violent than it had been even ten years before) was noticeable. "It doesn't take an exam to get people killed. All it takes is one person lying about the ranking level of a mission, because they're too cheap or too hopeful to spend what they need on the skills that'll keep them alive. And in regards to the percentage of people dying on one exam? The one that stands in for the small-scale wars that used to be fought? The highest has been five percent." In recent history. "Compared to the dozens of dead you used to end up with, compared to knowing that you can trust your life to the shonobi who pulled through the exams and was seen as qualified to move up in rank? You tell me if that doesn't seem negligible. Not acceptable, but negligible. When you know some countries used to have genin classes fight to the death for one promotion to chuunin, you tell me that there's no tactical advantage in instituting a better control over how the shinobi world interacts with its different parts. In promoting team activities first, and saving individual confrontations for last."
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[personal profile] livestoannoy 2011-05-05 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
"So...let me get this straight. The point of these exams is to weed out the unreliable people so that they don't end up on dangerous missions that put people's lives at risk. Except you're already sending them on dangerous missions that put people's lives at risk. So you make everyone take this exam, which does measure who's better for the job, except for some reason you can't just wait another few years until everyone has more experience and isn't, you know, twelve. And the tactical advantage for all of this, the thing that you're weighing off against the up to five percent death rate is...advertising?" Marco said, staring.

He'd already made a pretty good guess that Sakura's world was insane. What had hadn't realised though, was that her world was INSANE.

"And naturally, instead of using more reliable methods of proving the quality of your fighters, like say, the statistics of your success rates or matches between more experience ninjas, you rely on...the twelve year olds. The least experienced, the ones who just started, and are the most likely to screw up. They're the ones you're counting on to tell the rest of the world how awesome you guys are. Did I get that right, or is there some other completely insane part of all this that I've missed?"

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